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Post  honky_nut on Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:03 am

don't worry about your address being known as it changes each time you log in. multiplexing system.
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Post  peace on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:51 am

yes honky-except when the b thing drops out unexpectedly!!
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Post  Guest on Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:48 am

steve wrote:
peace wrote:ha ha I see one of our header ads is selling cloud storage from an Australian firm.

Wonder where thier storage site is?

Possibly its because we have this thread up and it triggered the ad interest.

like the 'sleep tight dont let the bedbugs bite'; triggered the bed bug erradication ones.


I have to laugh when I read this cloud buzz word. All it is is a means to get everyone to store all their
files online and run applications like word and what not from online sites as well.

Gee I wonder why they want everyone to used the cloud. All the cloud is is Internet Servers and data whorehouses,
they have been around since the web was first introduced.

I certainly won't be storing my files online anytime soon so companies and govs can troll them and pass them around.



Exactly Steve....it is simply a money making scheme and a trap for the gullible. Control springs to mind.

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Post  Guest on Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:59 pm

peace wrote:ha ha I see one of our header ads is selling cloud storage from an Australian firm.

Wonder where thier storage site is?

Possibly its because we have this thread up and it triggered the ad interest.

like the 'sleep tight dont let the bedbugs bite'; triggered the bed bug erradication ones.


I have to laugh when I read this cloud buzz word. All it is is a means to get everyone to store all their
files online and run applications like word and what not from online sites as well.

Gee I wonder why they want everyone to used the cloud. All the cloud is is Internet Servers and data whorehouses,
they have been around since the web was first introduced.

I certainly won't be storing my files online anytime soon so companies and govs can troll them and pass them around.



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Post  honky_nut on Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:02 am

peace are you on a sat feed???
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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:20 pm

Every time I come away from Yahoo I can tell I have cookies on board...the mouse is like a slug and loading other sites is difficult. Quick clean and its back to normal. Never caught anything here. Hardly a cookie.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:18 pm

Download the free version of Super Anti Spyware from SNAPFILES.COM OR MAJORGEEK.COM. Run a scan. If you have never done it before you will get a damned shock at how many cookies and trojans it picks up.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:15 pm

I don't like the way Yahoo has rolling ads and pop up ads on the screen

It's a ploy hoping people will accidentally click on them. Which they do. I have been caught

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Post  peace on Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:06 pm

Thanks for that inbound- I will keep that in mind for future referral-at the present time-I have nothing stored on this little laptop so not particularly worried-but when I upgrade in the future-will look into doing it properly.

I am still wary of clicking onto most sites anyway; plus it uses downloads up too quickly; if I waste time going places I'm not really that interested in.

sorry-this has been sitting a while-yes rumi-I agree and if anyone did- waste of time for me;like my house-nothing to gain .I take things as I find themand this site has always been easy to use and pretty well maintained and regulated-unlike Yahoo.
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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:57 pm

Super Anti Spyware when it detects a cookie will show who owns the cookie and the URL it came from. AdBrite,Castlemedia,DoubleClick.....there is a whole swag of companies doing it. It's how they target the ads at the top....the cookies tell the firm what the people are talking about and the ads mirror the conversation as Peace noticed.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:50 pm

Rumi wrote:I mentioned this to Mary when she got her virus. Maybe to Grannie too. Although they were at different times, I think

Firstly, I don't believe a techy would be able to pinpoint which site a virus came from. Especially when one googles and goes to many sites. I got one recently but my Avast said it was a direct attack. I was on Yahoo at the time. I ended up having to reformat

Furthermore, I honestly do not believe someone would go to the trouble to set up this site. Not once, but twice, just to dish out viruses so people cannot post. It makes absolutely no sense. It's scaremongering from a certain element.

Exactly Rumi...if you have your Anti virus and anti spyware operating correctly and up to date and the settings fixed to scan at periodic intervals you are generally safe. No-one can blame a web site for infections if they have not done the correct effort to protect their own computer. Installing a reputable anti virus and firewall on your computer is useless unless you use it and program it. There is also a responsibility on the computer owner to maintain their computer and back up their files they want to keep on a USB stick or something similar. Cripes these days some script kiddy could come on here and leave an image with a bug in it and Danoiel et al would be oblivious to it. Sites get hacked all the time as do computers. All we can do is our own bit to protect ourselves and not blame outside things. Be aware of your surroundings...just like on the street...look both ways.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:42 pm

I mentioned this to Mary when she got her virus. Maybe to Grannie too. Although they were at different times, I think

Firstly, I don't believe a techy would be able to pinpoint which site a virus came from. Especially when one googles and goes to many sites. I got one recently but my Avast said it was a direct attack. I was on Yahoo at the time. I ended up having to reformat

Furthermore, I honestly do not believe someone would go to the trouble to set up this site. Not once, but twice, just to dish out viruses so people cannot post. It makes absolutely no sense. It's scaremongering from a certain element.

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Post  peace on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:32 pm

and in response to the thread here; google adware have read the bedbug comment and computer clean up advise-and posted relevant adlinks in the adspace.
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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:27 pm

Double'slick.com....should be Double Click.com....lmao....happy fingers.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:25 pm

Peace...in my experience Yahoo is one of the worst offenders for tracking cookies and now they recently made a deal with the Smiley emoticon crew...well known for loading tracking cookies and Malware on your computer. Google loves tracking cookies to. Double'slick.com that do a lot of banner adds have now incorp[orated themselves into websites whereby when you click a page button you can get a tracking cookie for your trouble. Today, more than ever before it is a good idea to keep ALL personal information off your computer and maintain it regularly. Get good quality Anti virus and anti spyware apps and use them daily and keep them updated. New viruses are produced like rabbits these days. A good anti malware app like malwarebytes is a good edition. And yes...if you click on an ad...you get a cookie and taken to another site away from where the banner was you clicked and then you are more often trapped there unless you close your browser or shut your computer down. If you use an app like malwarebytes or Super Anti Spyware it prevents hijacking.

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Post  peace on Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:05 pm

ok-from what mary and a couple of others were saying about problems with thier computers; after accidentally clicking on ads here- may have had some merit.Not the fault of the actual site itself.

I studiously avoid them myself, as they are annoying and time consumig but still get caught occassionally and have to close the page before they completely load.

This site may have specific protection to avoid that being a problem-but as the ads load on a sepperate new page-I cant see how it can be controlled from here; no matter how hard the admin tries-if it is then removed from this particular domain.

It may not have specifically been here but another place they went to; with similar ad practices.

Maybe I could have a similart problem-but as I only use my computer for message board and minor browsing and came up in a non instant age; whatever is or may be wrong, hasnt bothered me-so long as it still works----somehow!

and I can understand there being ads-someone has to pay for us using it-it's not free.

Daniel explained that was part of the problem with the original site; as it wasn't really paying-for the work involved in the maintainence.

Possibly when we talk of dodgy places; the original forum was prone to having the majority of its supprting ads -for quite a while, in the dating singles etc-genre.Possibly a little more suspect than others-especially as a lot seem to originate overseas.
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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:29 am

You cannot blame the site owners for wanting to get income to help with running costs and improvements. You cannot blame site owners if you get infected either....nefarious people will always leave bugs on sites to trap the ignorant and unwary. Security of any computer is the users responsibility.

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Post  Guest on Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:26 am

peace wrote:ha ha I see one of our header ads is selling cloud storage from an Australian firm.

Wonder where thier storage site is?

Possibly its because we have this thread up and it triggered the ad interest.

like the 'sleep tight dont let the bedbugs bite'; triggered the bed bug erradication ones.


Going back to 2002 DeviantArt....one of the first major Art sites on the net began using banner ads to generate income. The tracking cookies that came off the banners caused a huge furore on the site and the site owners refused to accept banners if they contained tracking cookies because they disrupted members computers. What I have observed since is an increase in the number of tracking cookies delivered to computers. The method has been modified to be more subtle but they still slow the computer and still disrupt browsing etc. Keeping your computer clean is imperative and the general rule of thumb is don't click a banner ad.

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Post  peace on Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:20 pm

ha ha I see one of our header ads is selling cloud storage from an Australian firm.

Wonder where thier storage site is?

Possibly its because we have this thread up and it triggered the ad interest.

like the 'sleep tight dont let the bedbugs bite'; triggered the bed bug erradication ones.
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Re: The cloud

Post  foxidrive on Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:23 pm

inbound39 wrote:
I think you are expecting people to be as savvy and the fact is the average person isn't. Therefore a hundred people trotting at will through a computer is no stretch at all. I used to trace attempts to gain entry to my computer.

Well, there is the point that some people use a PC without knowing what might cause an issue - hence my rider of 'unless the PC is compromised'.

My argument is that attempts to gain entry are just that - attempts. None will succeed unless there is a vulnerability on an open port or the password is easily guessable.

Still, things like the recently advertised WPS hack on a wireless router will give the kiddies something to do in the new year.
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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:09 am

A lot of people ,unlike you and I Foxi, are not conversant in keeping their computer secure or maintained. Many I know do not do daily maintenance on their computer or upgrade their anti virus or anti spyware definitions nor do they do simple tasks like disk cleaning or defragmentation. All of the latter are simple maintenance tasks that ensure smooth running and secure integrity of their computer.

I have helped many friends out over the years when their computers have become infected and they give me dumb looks when I ask them if they have done the basics. Most people have no idea how to keep their computer safe nor do they seem to particularly care to bother unless it won't connect to the internet or it won't load correctly or lags or the mouse won't behave itself. On one computer I cleaned it had over nine hundred odd faults and ran like a pig. It had casino infections and the person never gambled....the computer had more or less become a bot for someone else. Even using system restore or closing the remote access port is beyond some people. Running the security programs is beyond some...they think because it is loaded on their computer by some miracle it operates itself.

I think you are expecting people to be as savvy as you Foxi and the fact is the average person isn't. Therefore a hundred people trotting at will through a computer is no stretch at all. I used to trace attempts to gain entry to my computer. Most originated from China.....one to a University campus in China and other attacks originated in Europe.

I keep my computer as tight as I can but that is something I have learnt over time through hard lessons.

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Post  foxidrive on Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:09 am

inbound39 wrote:All you can do is do your best but I stand by my statement of over 100 people going through your computer a day...that was stated on Click Online...

It's specious crap by click online, inbound. You might be pinged by 100 people a day but unless you have open ports *and* vulnerabilities on those ports then your hardware firewall in your ADSL modem or router is pretty secure. You do not have 100 people examining your email and word documents on your hard drive every day.

I am happy to opine that nothing is 100% secure all the time, and forever, but 100 people trawling your hard drive a day? Gimme a break! Not even 1, unless your computer is compromised.
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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:00 am

I use a double firewall and scan and maintain my definitions daily and do maintenance daily and I still get caught every once in a while...right now I am disinfecting the computer after something got through...don't know what exactly until the scan completes but it is currently showing two threats it has caught.

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Post  Guest on Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:56 am

foxidrive wrote:
inbound39 wrote: As Foxi says...no personal information of any kind should be stored on your computer....hundreds of people who you don't know walk through your computer daily without your permission.

No no. Your PC is pretty safe if you have a hardware or software firewall and AV and you don't click without thinking (and so don't get infected with malware).

It's the cloud that I don't trust personal stuff to. It's open to the public all the time, it has to be to save and serve them their data. Hackers enjoy the challenge of public facing servers.

No firewall can guarantee complete safety...a competent hacker can get through any firewall....I have used all the major firewalls out there. Norton you can change the name of an exe file and it fails to pick up the change. Norton as with other reputable firewalls can be disabled with the right gear. All sites these days have tracking cookies and they disrupt the computer and pass info on to the cookie owner about your surfing habits which in the right hands can build quite a picture up. If you have listened to lectures by Internet Security firms they will NEVER guarantee their gear to be one hundred percent effective. The Pentagon has some of the most sophisticated gear out there yet Chinese hackers and European and American hackers have got in those computers and gained sensitive information. What hope does the average bloke have. All you can do is do your best but I stand by my statement of over 100 people going through your computer a day...that was stated on Click Online...the BBC show on computing.Hackers enjoy any computer as a challenge....hence illegal software...they get the serials not only from key generators but also by stealing them from peoples computers online.

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Post  foxidrive on Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:31 pm

inbound39 wrote: As Foxi says...no personal information of any kind should be stored on your computer....hundreds of people who you don't know walk through your computer daily without your permission.

No no. Your PC is pretty safe if you have a hardware or software firewall and AV and you don't click without thinking (and so don't get infected with malware).

It's the cloud that I don't trust personal stuff to. It's open to the public all the time, it has to be to save and serve them their data. Hackers enjoy the challenge of public facing servers.
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